[Runequest] Runequest Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Tenniel Guiver
tenniel.guiver at abs.gov.au
Wed May 7 01:05:47 UTC 2008
> Bronze vs iron -Yes it is stronger,
> but usually more brittle & can take less side-loading force. Thus they
> built bronze weapons bulkier & more heavy but they still would often
> shatter when struck repeatedly with iron weapons.
) Actually, bronze is not inferior to iron... :) in some cases and
) applications it's actually superior.
> etc
What this is saying is that bronze may be made "stronger" than iron, but
may not necessarily be "tougher".
* Strength- ability to withstand force being applied. Materials will have
different types of strength- tensile (resistance to being pulled),
compressive (resistance to being squashed) and shear strength (resistance
to being sliced or sheared)
* Toughness- ability to absorb energy before failure
* Hardness- resistance to indentation
Thus an iron sword might be tougher than a bronze sword that is actually
stronger. So the iron sword that constantly bends and needs straigtening
might last longer than bronze sword that snaps parrying a mighty blow. An
obsidian sword (e.g. a klanth) could be very hard (and made with a razor
sharp edge) but have very little toughness.
>Didn't iron weapons also tond to bend with use?
There is an interesting anglo-saxon account of soldiers having to
constantly straigthen out their iron swords underfoot..can't find the
reference.. but here is a roman account of Gaulish weapons "merely cutting
blades . . . altogether pointless, and fit only to slash from a distance
downwards: these weapons by their construction soon wax blunt, and are
bent and bowed; so that a second blow cannot be delivered until they are
straightened by the foot."
Steel can be very tough and strong. But in early days strength was
generally at the cost of toughness (i.e. becoming more brittle). Ways
around this included smashing up the carbides left over from the iron
making process, welding different compositions of metal together (e.g.
pattern welding... use something hard for the edge supported by something
tough) or by techniques that controlled carbide formation (eg Damascus
steel or the aforementioned wootz steel). My favourite is about a smith
that refined steel by making a sword, filing it down , feeding to chicken
(after abaking into cakes), reforging and repeating this. This works by
removing phosphorus (which chickens excel at, they need it for egg
making... helps transprt calcium apparently).
Bronze can have a wide range of properties (from soft and malleable to
hard and brittle) depending on composition. I did a review of ancient
chinese bronze artifacts many years ago as amazed at the varaiblity in
composition, some spearheads had a really high tin content and would have
been extremely brittle (but really pointy).
But for RPGs it is probably best to ignore all of this. Especially in
Glorantha where bronze is the bones of the gods and iron is a substance
with supernatural properties.
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